70 innocent civilians in exchange for 700 Palestinians including those accused of murder. How can anyone agree to that? And 6 weeks of fighting pause so Hamas can re-group. Sorry but there has to be another way.
Again I learn things I didn’t pick up on this week. I appreciate you filling me in. I suppose I’ll be hearing more about Lavender from here on. Makes sense that AI may be behind the WCK killings.
I’ll check out Freakanomics but not too much into podcasts. Maybe this sways me.
I’m looking for my next book. I’m nonfiction, current affairs reader. Suggestions? I am open to anything … but cookbooks 😉
The WCK deaths seem like a microcosm for the IDF’s war in Gaza, and a stark indication of how and why so many innocent civilians have been killed. And what surprises me is how little coverage and attention that aspect of the attack has gotten in the media.
Even according to the IDF’s own statement, the attack on the convoy was a result of the fact that one or two Hamas fighters (for whatever reason described as “gunmen”) were believed to be in the convoy. How could the IDF’s lack of concern for the lives of civilians be more stark? In an effort to kill possibly as many two soldiers, who it turns out were not even in the convoy, three vehicles were struck and seven killed.
This shows in the clearest possible way that there is no concern whatever for the amount of collateral damage the IDF is willing to inflict, even when the target is ordinary Hamas fighters. Even the fact that the most famous non-combatants possible were involved, who were in constant contact with the IDF throughout, did not prevent them from being targeted and killed. Which shows that even the most basic and obvious precautions possible were not taken to prevent the killing of civilians. So I would love to know, given what this incident tells us, what it could possibly take for the IDF to restrain itself from killing innocent people, in their effort to kill every single Hamas fighter.
There has a been a lot of coverage of this, to be fair. This is an instance where the Israelis are talking responsibility and pledging to take more measures to protect aid workers. So I would say maybe this is a wake up call.
I may have overstated my point a bit in a couple of ways. First of all, I'm not saying there has not been a lot of coverage of the WCK incident, which clearly there has been. What I was trying to say was that I haven't seen anything that focusses in on what this tragedy says about how ridiculously loose the IDF's protocols are for targeting, even ordinary, individual Hamas fighters.
And clearly the IDF does try to reduce mass casualties too some extent. But killing 33,000 innocent civilians in order to kill 13,000 Hamas fighters - how can that be deemed acceptable. And to me this WCK incident clearly shows how that has been allowed to happen. Even if there had been two Hamas fighters in the convoy, that would have been a 7 to 2 ratio, almost exactly equal to the total ratio thus far.
To read a hostage deal with Hamas? How do you propose to do that? Just today we learned that one of the male hostages, that appeared in two clips the terrorists published, was murdered by them. There is no reason in the world why Israel must accept the conditions that Hamas demands for a deal. That means that Hamas will be allowed to do what they promised, to do October 7 over and over again. Is that what the world wants? Really?
Israel makes the decisions whether to accept those conditions that Hamas sets. I think the families of the hostages are arguing they should accept them.
That is absolutely true, Elise. There is an opinion here in Israel that Biden’s recent public statements ( probably forced onto him by the Israel lovers from the Squad, who spread lies about the war since October 7) caused Hamas to refuse any compromise. I don’t know how to balance the just demands of the families of the kidnapped with the demands of the Nazi Hamas animals. Do you?
70 innocent civilians in exchange for 700 Palestinians including those accused of murder. How can anyone agree to that? And 6 weeks of fighting pause so Hamas can re-group. Sorry but there has to be another way.
Again I learn things I didn’t pick up on this week. I appreciate you filling me in. I suppose I’ll be hearing more about Lavender from here on. Makes sense that AI may be behind the WCK killings.
I’ll check out Freakanomics but not too much into podcasts. Maybe this sways me.
I’m looking for my next book. I’m nonfiction, current affairs reader. Suggestions? I am open to anything … but cookbooks 😉
It’s lighter content for the weekend! 😉 try the book I recommended.
Thanks. I guess I should’ve written “any other” … economics doesn’t pique my interest anymore. But I’ll give it a look
I going to pick it up today. I like the preview I just read. Thx agsin
The WCK deaths seem like a microcosm for the IDF’s war in Gaza, and a stark indication of how and why so many innocent civilians have been killed. And what surprises me is how little coverage and attention that aspect of the attack has gotten in the media.
Even according to the IDF’s own statement, the attack on the convoy was a result of the fact that one or two Hamas fighters (for whatever reason described as “gunmen”) were believed to be in the convoy. How could the IDF’s lack of concern for the lives of civilians be more stark? In an effort to kill possibly as many two soldiers, who it turns out were not even in the convoy, three vehicles were struck and seven killed.
This shows in the clearest possible way that there is no concern whatever for the amount of collateral damage the IDF is willing to inflict, even when the target is ordinary Hamas fighters. Even the fact that the most famous non-combatants possible were involved, who were in constant contact with the IDF throughout, did not prevent them from being targeted and killed. Which shows that even the most basic and obvious precautions possible were not taken to prevent the killing of civilians. So I would love to know, given what this incident tells us, what it could possibly take for the IDF to restrain itself from killing innocent people, in their effort to kill every single Hamas fighter.
There has a been a lot of coverage of this, to be fair. This is an instance where the Israelis are talking responsibility and pledging to take more measures to protect aid workers. So I would say maybe this is a wake up call.
I may have overstated my point a bit in a couple of ways. First of all, I'm not saying there has not been a lot of coverage of the WCK incident, which clearly there has been. What I was trying to say was that I haven't seen anything that focusses in on what this tragedy says about how ridiculously loose the IDF's protocols are for targeting, even ordinary, individual Hamas fighters.
And clearly the IDF does try to reduce mass casualties too some extent. But killing 33,000 innocent civilians in order to kill 13,000 Hamas fighters - how can that be deemed acceptable. And to me this WCK incident clearly shows how that has been allowed to happen. Even if there had been two Hamas fighters in the convoy, that would have been a 7 to 2 ratio, almost exactly equal to the total ratio thus far.
And where does the number of “innocent” civilians come from? Exactly
The United Nations.
And according to Hamas All are civilians. Not a single terrorist killed according to them. Really?
Incorrect. It comes from the Hamas health ministry.
And where does the number of 13,000 Hamas fighters killed come from? The IDF.
If the IDF did not care about civilians, the war would have been over on October 8. No doubt whatsoever about it.
To read a hostage deal with Hamas? How do you propose to do that? Just today we learned that one of the male hostages, that appeared in two clips the terrorists published, was murdered by them. There is no reason in the world why Israel must accept the conditions that Hamas demands for a deal. That means that Hamas will be allowed to do what they promised, to do October 7 over and over again. Is that what the world wants? Really?
Israel makes the decisions whether to accept those conditions that Hamas sets. I think the families of the hostages are arguing they should accept them.
That is absolutely true, Elise. There is an opinion here in Israel that Biden’s recent public statements ( probably forced onto him by the Israel lovers from the Squad, who spread lies about the war since October 7) caused Hamas to refuse any compromise. I don’t know how to balance the just demands of the families of the kidnapped with the demands of the Nazi Hamas animals. Do you?
I have heard that theory as well. I don’t know how to balance it either. Agree it is a real dilemma